sorry but this is the third thread now about this in the last month... maybe 2 and my thoughts havent changed, now I do agree with nat about the kick command and having to be a vip donator to get it. but that pretty much goes without saying you may as well be an admin cause you have to follow the same rules and do not abuse any powers you have in the server. but putting together a whole vigilante group because admins arent always on (sorry but thats take on fkp) bad idea